Secrets of “Flow States”: Investigating with Famous Musician Mike Gordon

Secrets of “Flow States”: Investigating with Famous Musician Mike Gordon

Mike Gordon
Mike Gordon: Phish bassist
Bob Weir
Bob Weir: Grateful Dead guitarist
Jared Slomoff
Jared Slomoff: Mike Gordon's producer

What happens when we slip into “the zone”—and how can we control it? Phish bassist Mike Gordon has chased that question for years. Unraveling the mysteries of flow states demands—at a minimum—a better understanding of what is happening in the body and brain during a flow state. Perhaps then, flow states can be harnessed for greater creative potential.

After many years of impactful performances and a long-lasting interest in brain activity, Mike is set on finding answers. With this renowned musician leading the effort, a network of passionate researchers, and the latest biometric technology, we are set for a breakthrough.

Introducing Mike's Team

Greg Appelbaum
Greg Appelbaum, PhD: Psychiatry professor at the University of California, San Diego
Suzanne Dikker
Suzanne Dikker, PhD: Psychology and Neural Science professor at New York University
Sean Montgomery
Sean Montgomery, PhD: Founder and Director of Engineering at Connected Future Labs and Founder of EmotiBit
John Cohn
John Cohn, PhD: Engineer and IBM Fellow Emeritus

Mike assembled a research team of some of the smartest and most enterprising folks around for his project, including university professors Greg Appelbaum (UC San Diego) and Suzanne Dikker (NYU). But a project of this magnitude takes more than two.

Esteban Romero
Esteban Romero: Biomedical engineer
Kaia Sargent
Kaia Sargent: Behavioral Neuroscience PhD student and trained musician
Phoebe Chen
Phoebe Chen: Cognitive science doctoral researcher
Adam Horowitz
Adam Horowitz, PhD: Cognitive science scholar

Professor Dikker reached out to EmotiBit’s founder, Sean Montgomery, about joining the project. With Sean’s neuroscience background, years of expertise in biometric sensing, and personal musical interest, becoming involved was a clear fit.

A tweet from Rolling Stone stating "Mike Gordon’s mission with XenboX is like a cross between ancient, mythical quest and cutting-edge R&D about understanding the creative process and the concept of flow. In a lot of ways, it started more than 40 years ago, before Phish. The story: https://rollingstone.com/music/music-features/mike-gordon-xenbox-flow-state-1235369834/".
An image of the Rolling Stone headline about Mike Gordon and XenboX

The Role of EmotiBit

Uncovering the secrets of flow requires scientifically validated, high-quality data. Will flow states be found from data from heart rate (HR), blood pressure/the rate of breathing (PPG), activity from sweat glands (EDA), or something completely different? Could a combination of metrics show us the way?

The EmotiBit wearable allows for 16+ data streams−including body temperature, HR, PPG, EDA (also known as GSR), and IMU−that’s been scientifically validated and studied many times. With numerous data streams being collected at once, Mike’s team can be sure that they are getting as much data as possible out of every test.

Sean Montgomery, Suzanne Dikker, and Phoebe Chen with heads bent down over various EmotiBit and other biometric paraphernalia.
The team sets up the experiment on a purple chest in Mike's studio
A flat rectangle with elements resembling a circuit board. "EmotiBit" is branded at the bottom.
The EmotiBit device

To create scenarios where a flow state is activated, Mike Gordon teamed up with Bob Weir of Grateful Dead fame for one-of-a-kind studio jam sessions. Each ucisian wears EmotiBit on their forehead with an EEG brainwave monitoring device to gain insight into body and brain activity.

As biomwtric signals are being captured during their music, Mike and Bob hit foot pedals to indicate that they are in a flow state. Audience members, including Mike’s longtime producer Jared Slomoff, also indicate when they perceive a flow state. These manual signals are recorded alongside biosignals collected from EmotiBits during the jam session.

In the first video above, Mike and Bob jam to Grateful Dead song “He’s Gone” while Diane, Mike, Jared, Bob, and John press indicators when they think a flow state is occurring. In the second video, we can peek into some of the physiological metrics collected by Mike’s EmotiBit as he jams with Bob.

As the project matures, the manual step of recording a flow state experience may be replaced with an insightful algorithm. Some day, artists might be alerted by such a biofeedback-based algorithm that their brain is near reaching a flow state which could spur increased creativity and enjoyment.

XenboX

A man with sensors on the top of his head and a headband with a black rectangle labeled "XenboX"
John wearing a XenboX prototype
Diagram of the inner workings of XenboX. A cover is attached to a AdaFruit Feather, attached to an EmotiBit, attached to a headband on someone's head.
Diagram of the XenboX prototype components
A man, beaming, wearing a headband with a black rectangle labeled "XenboX"
Jared wearing a Xenbox prototype

Mike’s project, called XenboX, includes an EmotiBit, Adafruit Feather, headband, and a custom PCB interface board. The custom board is used to label data with flow states via foot pedal presses. The EmotiBit wearable is open source, easily customizable with Adafruit Feather stacking headers, and all data is 100% user owned, which makes it a versatile choice for asking novel questions about signals from the body.

To learn more about the XenboX project, check out this Rolling Stone piece about its development.

Flowing Forward

Mike Gordon and Bob Weir surrounded by musical and biometric equipment, jamming out in a flow state to a Grateful Dead song.

Sean’s team at Connected Future Labs (our R&D consulting arm) immensely enjoyed working with Mike Gordon and all the folks involved Mike’s project is exactly the types of innovative, pushing-the-boundaries-of-science project that Connected Future Labs strives to collaborate with. Connected Future Labs has past projects in health & wellness, automotive, virtual reality and more, and is excited to help XenboX come to fruition.